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Calling all the old timers
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Leotine
2011-11-25 09:37:05 UTC
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What has happened to Brad, Gale, Shez, 'Thenine, Yowie (we know is
here), Dale, Dove, Storm, Wood Avens (is on Live Journal) (with)
Jackdraw who has gone the way of cyberknitting in Blender.
Give me a look on Facebook or Live Journal as Jeff Scott-Turner or
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Merry meet and merrily we seem to have parted.

BB
Yowie
2011-11-25 21:46:29 UTC
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What has happened to Brad, Gale, Shez, 'Thenine, Yowie (we know is
here), Dale, Dove, Storm, Wood Avens (is on Live Journal) (with)
Jackdraw who has gone the way of cyberknitting in Blender.
Give me a look on Facebook or Live Journal as Jeff Scott-Turner or
videos on You tube search for Leotine.
Merry meet and merrily we seem to have parted.
BB
'Allo. Still here.

Yowie
Dove
2011-11-25 22:46:54 UTC
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What has happened to Brad, Gale, Shez, 'Thenine, Yowie (we know is
here), Dale, Dove, Storm, Wood Avens (is on Live Journal) (with)
Jackdraw who has gone the way of cyberknitting in Blender.
Give me a look on Facebook or Live Journal as Jeff Scott-Turner or
videos on You tube search for Leotine.
Merry meet and merrily we seem to have parted.
BB
'Allo. Still here.
Yowie
Yea...me too. <waves>

BB,
Dove
David Dalton
2011-11-26 03:30:34 UTC
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What has happened to Brad, Gale, Shez, 'Thenine, Yowie (we know is
here), Dale, Dove, Storm, Wood Avens (is on Live Journal) (with)
Jackdraw who has gone the way of cyberknitting in Blender.
Give me a look on Facebook or Live Journal as Jeff Scott-Turner or
videos on You tube search for Leotine.
Merry meet and merrily we seem to have parted.
BB
'Allo. Still here.
Yowie
I'm here too though I might not be considered an old timer.

(This evening I divined that my last attempt to get my
four components judged and activated was false and
tried again, starting in dark of moon, and supposedly
my eleven main deities are now in a conference call
that began 4 hours ago, judging the four components.)
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storm
2011-11-26 16:11:14 UTC
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What has happened to Brad, Gale, Shez, 'Thenine, Yowie (we know is
here), Dale, Dove, Storm, Wood Avens (is on Live Journal) (with)
Jackdraw who has gone the way of cyberknitting in Blender.
Give me a look on Facebook or Live Journal as Jeff Scott-Turner or
videos on You tube search for Leotine.
Merry meet and merrily we seem to have parted.
BB
Still around, but not very active. Stopped putting my name everywhere
on the Internet. If you get a friend request on Facebook from the
offspring of a trouble maker, it will be me.

-storm
Gale
2011-11-26 19:46:21 UTC
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Jeff Scott-Turner
Hi, I'm still about, but not active on usenet these days. I popped in to
see arwm today, and saw your message.

I'll try to send a facebook friend request your way.
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Gale

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love or joy or righteous anger." Susanna Clarke, The Ladies of Grace Adieu
francis.cameron
2011-11-27 11:39:27 UTC
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Time like an ever rolling stream cannot be stepped into at the same
place twice - or can it?

We - the royal us, as you might expect - are now so far past [sic] our
four score years and ten we have to count the days on our fingers lest
we forget the ball of the thumb on the joints of the digits arrives at
a duodecimal which twelve pence to a shilling used to Bach & Handel
very well but never converts to an integer when entered as a float.
(Ouch!)

Retirement and reluctant departure from the days of indiscretion
leaves time for much cogitation. I put my feet up and lean back with
my initial preprandial lubrication. Thinking takes over. Sometimes I
am moved to switch on the computator and turn the impulse of thought
into the magic of writing.

Wood Avens and I meet up in Oxford, much to my delight. Alack my
moontime coveners have all dispersed. Oxford is Otherwise Totally
Overshadowed with magicians. Our Magic Café has changed hands. It has
an alien purity. It's old atmosphere is gone. (Ditto 'Mysteries'
proximate to Seven Dials.) The Inner Bookshop's proprietors seek
retirement.

"Change and decay in all around I see"

'twas ever thus - though 'tis but a time of Dormition - Hagia
Theotokos! Persephone shall rise again from the embrace of the earth
beneath. The ripening grain is Demeter. The grape on the vine and the
wine in the cup is Dionysos. Wicca remains a good starting point.

Last night I took up once again 'The God of the Witches'. This morning
I read the clues and ask myself : was Margaret Murray a Pagan in the
1930s - though perhaps not as bare robed a witch as Dafo?

francis olim freespirit
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What has happened to Brad, Gale, Shez, 'Thenine, Yowie (we know is
here), Dale, Dove, Storm, Wood Avens (is on Live Journal) (with)
Jackdraw who has gone the way of cyberknitting in Blender.
Give me a look on Facebook or Live Journal as Jeff Scott-Turner or
videos on You tube search for Leotine.
Merry meet and merrily we seem to have parted.
BB
Katy Jennison
2011-11-27 17:17:09 UTC
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What has happened to Brad, Gale, Shez, 'Thenine, Yowie (we know is
here), Dale, Dove, Storm, Wood Avens (is on Live Journal) (with)
Jackdraw who has gone the way of cyberknitting in Blender.
Give me a look on Facebook or Live Journal as Jeff Scott-Turner or
videos on You tube search for Leotine.
Merry meet and merrily we seem to have parted.
I'm here occasionally; sometimes on LiveJournal; more often on Facebook
(search for Katy Jennison); and from time to time in cafes in Oxford
with Francis. Went to UK Pagan Federation 40th anniversary conference
in London, and if I get round to it I might post my notes of Ronald
Hutton's talk on Why People Fear Witches. Other random facts: a week or
two ago I shared a platform with Don Cupitt on the topic of Reinventing
Religion; and I represent Paganism on the Oxford Council of Faiths. Oh,
and even more exciting, I've been helping to look after baby goats!
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Wood Avens
Daniel Cohen
2011-11-28 06:59:50 UTC
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What has happened to Brad, Gale, Shez, 'Thenine, Yowie (we know is
here), Dale, Dove, Storm, Wood Avens (is on Live Journal) (with)
Jackdraw who has gone the way of cyberknitting in Blender.
Give me a look on Facebook or Live Journal as Jeff Scott-Turner or
videos on You tube search for Leotine.
Merry meet and merrily we seem to have parted.
I'm here occasionally; sometimes on LiveJournal; more often on Facebook
(search for Katy Jennison)
Facebook, and LJ to a lesser extent, seem to be the media of choice
nowadays. Myself I still prefer email groups and Usenet, in the absence
of RL.
Post by Katy Jennison
Went to UK Pagan Federation 40th anniversary conference
in London, and if I get round to it I might post my notes of Ronald
Hutton's talk on Why People Fear Witches.
I missed that because I was away. But he was the guest at a storytelling
week I regularly attend, talking on the origins of the Mabinogion. He is
a great storyteller. He could be as much of a TV star as most of the
current media crop of scientists and historians if he wanted.

I missed the PF because I was in the USA. Part of the reason was to
visit a friend, the other part was to go the the American Academy of
Religion annual meeting. It is a huge academic conference, running over
four days, with at least twenty simultaneous sessions. There is a
Contemporary Pagan Studies section and also one on Western Esotericism,
in addition to Ritual Studies.

There was a great reception with a chance to meet people, and a
discussion (which is ongoing) about relations between academics and
practitioners (the participants were mostly both), following on from the
anti-axademic bias displayed by many after the recent publication of
"Trials of the Moon" by Ben Whitmore, his critique of "Triumph of the
Moon".
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Katy Jennison
2011-11-28 15:16:38 UTC
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On 28/11/2011 06:59, Daniel Cohen wrote:

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Post by Daniel Cohen
There was a great reception with a chance to meet people, and a
discussion (which is ongoing) about relations between academics and
practitioners (the participants were mostly both), following on from the
anti-academic bias displayed by many after the recent publication of
"Trials of the Moon" by Ben Whitmore, his critique of "Triumph of the
Moon".
I hadn't heard of "Trials of the Moon" until now - thanks! For others
interested, here's a pdf of the main text of it (minus title pages,
bibliography and index):

http://goodgame.org.nz/trialsofthemoonexcerpt.pdf

And here's an article by Ronald Hutton, at the end of which he addresses
some of Ben Whitmore's criticisms:

http://www.equinoxjournals.com/index.php/POM/article/view/10684/8082
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Wood Avens
Sings With Coyotes
2011-11-29 05:19:24 UTC
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I may not be a regular poster here, but I do look forward to
reading the group's post; perhaps I should speak up more often. Most
nights, my brain has not been in such condition to communicate my
thoughts in a sensible manner, so I wisely say nothing. Here in Iowa,
the wheel has turned to the colder times, Yule approaches, and I'm
continuing to be active in the local group that has nurtured my pagan
heart from the early days, with the difference that I have moved into
a leadership role (there being a time when we simply went along on
autopilot, as our original directors had mostly found other places to
explore), and have largely mended the old conflicts that scourged my
soul earlier in my service to the Goddess. Having a lighter heart
makes the days better, even in gloomy November.
I'm also to be found on Facebook, as Kevin Romaine, my profile pic
is of me in my (locally) infamous red dress, as I appeared at the Des
Moines Gay Pride festival this summer; it seems that I am quite the
object of interest to folks looking for someone presenting themselves
more flamboyantly to photograph!
This group was one of the first resources of wisdom and lore I
encountered in the wider paganverse, and the humor, spirit and
comraderie has buoyed me through my more difficult times, and so I
shall continue to enjoy your company.

Blessed be,
Kevin Romaine (Sings With Coyotes)
Daniel Cohen
2011-11-29 08:26:28 UTC
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[snip]
Post by Daniel Cohen
There was a great reception with a chance to meet people, and a
discussion (which is ongoing) about relations between academics and
practitioners (the participants were mostly both), following on from the
anti-academic bias displayed by many after the recent publication of
"Trials of the Moon" by Ben Whitmore, his critique of "Triumph of the
Moon".
I hadn't heard of "Trials of the Moon" until now - thanks! For others
interested, here's a pdf of the main text of it (minus title pages,
http://goodgame.org.nz/trialsofthemoonexcerpt.pdf
And here's an article by Ronald Hutton, at the end of which he addresses
http://www.equinoxjournals.com/index.php/POM/article/view/10684/8082
Ronald is good, as usual. There's been much discussion of Whitmore on
various pagan blogs.

I guess I'll post some blog addresses shortly. Meanwhile, thanks for
posting the links to Ben's critique and Ronald's reply. "The
Pomegranate", where Ronald's article appears, also has a review of
Whitmore by Peg Aloi. It's a fine journal, but being nowadays by an
academic publisher, it costs too much for mere mortals.
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